Taylor Swift The Best Leadership Podcast Ever
  • July 16, 2024

19. The problem with Taylor Swift | Why we devalue women in leadership

There’s a problem with Taylor Swift. The problem isn’t her music. The problem is her success. And the way you think about Taylor Swift is the way you think about every woman in leadership in your life.

Elvis didn’t write his songs. Elton John didn’t write his lyrics. Nobody questions their genius. But Taylor (who actually does write her songs) gets dismissed with “it’s easy when you don’t write your own music.” She’s also written more Top 10 hits than Elvis, Sinatra, Whitney, and Aretha combined.

In this episode, I break down why we minimize the success of women in leadership, why body-shaming follows successful women everywhere, and what it reveals about how we treat them at work.

🎧 Press play. Spoiler: it’s not just Taylor.

In this episode:

▶ Why we devalue women in leadership in ways we never devalued Elvis or Elton John
▶ The $70-93 million economic impact of a single Taylor Swift show (more than the Super Bowl)
▶ Body shaming: 2.79 million Google results for Taylor, 154,000 for Travis Kelce
▶ Caitlin Clark, Lizzo, Adele, and the pattern that links them all
▶ My “beautiful wife” and why a woman’s appearance still gets called a marker of male success
▶ The not-double-but-just standard for how men and women’s success is treated
▶ The question every leader should ask themselves about women in leadership

If your first reaction to a successful woman is to question how she got there, this one’s for you.



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Show Notes

[00:00] Introduction
[00:46] The problem with Taylor Swift
[01:00] A little bit of music history
[02:50] The Taylor Swift economy
[04:49] Body Shaming
[05:53] It’s not just Taylor Swift
[06:48] My beautiful wife
[07:43] What it all means


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